One way I’ve seen this put is don’t be nice, be kind. Nice is performative and ’nice’ people can be two faced because they’ll be ’nice’ to both a bully and the bully’s victim.
Being kind is more about empathy. And if you have empathy, you won’t tolerate bullies. It’s far more genuine and not just a performance for whoever you’re currently in the company of.
Yeah have a discussion after you have already been interviewing to see what’s out there, your discussion could lead to your manager or VP considering you a flight risk or unmotivated employee, putting a target on your back when they need to do layoffs. So always have a backup plan ready before you open your mouth.
I dont think that is necessary unless you work for a real prick. If that’s the case, start looking immediately. If youre afraid to confront your employer because your afraid of backlash you need to go. The communication will never be fruitful.
Edit: reminder - society deeming you a worker drone does not mean you should behave like one. Defend your humanity. Defend your right to exist. Defend your right to the pursuit of happieness.
I think this is about jobs and work specifically, because being nice, working hard and taking a lot on is the best strategy in general life for sure. Out side of work for sure.
At work being nice is still important, but it’s also very important to be honest. Working smart is important and working for the long run. It’s important not to burn yourself at work, but working hard enough that you can be proud of your work and not be bored, because that can be a killer too.
Lastly, being automatically rewarded for anything is a disappointment in both general life and work. You have to always ask for what you want. I had a lot of difficulty with that for my whole life and being in my forties ive gotten only marginally better at this. But at least I get the fact that people aren’t mind readers and it’s not fair to expect them to notice everything you do and want.
I think it’s the “automatically rewarded” part that’s the key flaw in the OP.
I recently retired after working for 40 years at the same company. My general approach (to life, not just work) is similar to the post, but with some tweaks. I would phrase it more like:
- Be empathetic, and treat everyone with respect.
- Work hard and be willing to volunteer for the tasks that nobody wants, but don’t give so much of yourself away that you’ll resent it.
- Strive for fairness in your handling of situations, but never expect life to be fair because it isn’t.
I had a very satisfying career. I went as high up in a leadership chain as I wanted to go, and had really enjoyable relationships with folks at all levels. But that last bit is very important: life just isn’t fair. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for fairness though.
Until I realized you did in fact have to ask for it, loudly. And what I found is that they will agree, but drag their feet when following through usually. In those cases you wait until you have leverage and then hammer the point home by handing in your resignation, stating you might be convinced to change your mind.
It works pretty well.
Also: don’t do this if you are not prepared to follow through with your resignation. I had a friend try this and security walked him out the door 10 minutes later. See my above point about leverage on how to prevent such a situation, which he didn’t have.
Is it safe to stay at a company that only gave you what you wanted after you threatened to leave, what’s stopping them from keeping you around just long enough to hire your replacement because they now consider you a flight risk
I think this depends a lot on the type of company. Large companies won’t really care, but family owned businesses are a very different beast. Still, in my case (corporate) there was a gentlemans agreement that I would stay on for at least 3 years. Meanwhile all layers of management except the ceo, who started the week before he got my upgraded contract on his desk, have moved or changed and I doubt many even know what happened.
My company doesn’t hire enough people to have full backups for positions. In return for that, they pay well. But sometimes you need to slam your fist on the table in order to get paid well or you will stay close to your starting salary for ages.
This weirdly propaganda-ish phrase was pounded into our working-class heads and our parents’ heads. But it only helped me ruin relationships and almost my life.
Now I do my work and I go home. If I don’t like the job, I find another one. If I see my coworkers still there EOD I bark at them to go home (half-jokingly). If I make friends - it’s a happy accident. Staying late and working hard doesn’t earn respect 99% of the time. You’re playing yourself if you believe it. Life is short.
I think people don’t realize how many doors are automatically open for them if they’re polite and hard working. Lots of interactions go way smoother if your end is always covered and the person you’re talking to wants to help you because you’re being nice.
Compare this to someone who is lazy and impolite. I think polite people would be genuinely surprised at how shit the day-to-day life of someone impolite is. Of course we’ll never hear it from the impolite because a defining characteristic is that they’re self-centered and ignorant.
The key is asking for it. Someone lazy and impolite who asks/demands that things go their way will get a lot of validation (externally at least)
But if you’re polite and hardworking and ask to get your way (which is not necessarily impolite, no matter what the perpetually anxious try to tell you), you actually have even more opportunities laid out for you.
Similarly, it also closes doors, especially in the US where the egregore of the “Executive leader” dominates - the kind of people who’ll forward an email with just “?!” as the body and expect their team to fix whatever problem it contains.
my comment was about how doors open in my life, and I never make it through because other people enter before I do and close the door leaving me standing around confused
At my job managers get swapped out with other locations pretty often. One year I had a HORRIBLE manager. She was knowledgeable but treated some people like garbage and others like saints who could do no wrong. After months of trying to get on her good side I had enough and just stopped putting in any effort outside the bare minimum. And I mean the BARE minimum. Not only did my mental health improve but as I watched some of my other coworkers struggle in the hamster wheel and I realized all the extra crap we were asked to do was meaningless and the entire hierarchy was the “good ol boys” club. I’ve saved soooo much time just telling people “I have no interest in being manager” so not only am I never asked to do extra work but my expectations are lower on all my projects. And guess what I’m salary so it doesn’t matter.
I feel a little bad cuz some of my coworkers are bitter about it. Like they don’t want the work but they don’t want to be passed up for promotion and I’m watching them laughing inside because I could tell them the next 5 people that are getting promoted without even knowing their work ethic. 😂
Promoted? People still get promoted at companies? My whole approach has been that companies only hire externally now, not promote from within. Companies believe this is better as it avoids interpersonal conflict that can happen when a coworker becomes your superior.
So if your company only ever promotes from within, and the only way to get a promotion or real raise is to switch companies…what exactly is the reason to go above and beyond? There isn’t one.
Probably grade school. Pretty sensitive to hypocrisy and noticed very early on that honesty got shat on or punished, and bullying, favoritism, and schmoozing got you ahead quicker. Being audhd made me very bad at the latter. Could not stand the requirement to kiss ass to get ahead, and just being a hard worker just got you more work.
I was a fucking asshole until my late 20s. Fuck you, get the fuck out of
My my way, and give me what I want was my whole outlook on life..
Turns out that when your whole attitude to life is scorched earth you leave a lot of wreckage behind you.
I’ve grown a lot but I still believe in the importance of rocking the boat sometimes. And have also learned the importance of shutting the fuck and working with people.
During college.
Worked in IT and the biggest raise I could get from the CEO above my minimum wage pay was $1 per hour. Even with a friend we couldn’t afford to rent a place. Houses went from $300,000 to $1,000,000 over a few years while I was working there.
That’s when I knew living in the city and having a house was off the tables. 20 years later I now live in an RV off grid in the middle of the desert. Own the land, own the freedom. (Plus the land was cheaper than 1 year of rent in the city)
Not yet, I do plan to get some. We have an incubator and some solar coop doors we found deals on. We have some free fencing from Craigslist. Eventually we will get everything and build a coop and chicken run.
Systems analysis, which I’ve done in the finance, energy, and healthcare industries.
I started by doing mundane, repetitive computer stuff. Then I taught myself Excel and VBA and started automating it, so that became my job. Basically finding ways to make existing processes faster and more consistent.
At some point I started learning more advanced programming languages, but in my last job switch I moved away from that and back to Excel and VBA. The pay is similar, and the career development is worse, but I work from home and spend more time with my kids and my cats.
When I didn’t have kids, I’d have prioritized working in-office and building my career. But nowadays I’m much happier this way.
I had been at a place for 4 years, I was the guy that knew everything about my position (there were only 3 of us). Then they hired a guy, and he worked with me for 3 weeks and was an untrainable idiot. Then he became my supervisor. They didn’t even tell me they were looking to create a supervisor position. I quit that day.
That’s a lifetime ago now and it still doesn’t work and has actually gotten worse. Such is my lot in this existence. I’ve just grown to sadly accept it.
Lol I’m here with my therapist trying to level with them. I don’t deserve the bad stuff that happened to me, but I can’t change what happened and can only look forward. I popped my fantasy cherry around 20, but still worked hard and got paid pennies
When i changed careers in my early 30’s. I was in retail for over a decade, hated everything about it, but was too worried about finding a new job. Buddy of mine offers me a desk job, i take it and it changed my life for the better.
I realized after a week that i’ve been busting my ASS for years with nothing to show for it. My coworkers have been here for 1-4 decades and none of them leave.
If you find the right job and the right management, everything gets so much easier.
I am meticulously polite and helpful. It’s who I am, and I won’t stop because the people who deserve to be treated like I treat people really are worth it.
People who treat you like shit don’t deserve shit.
You do not need gratification for every single effort you put forth or every act of kindness you provide. If you expect this then you will be very, very disappointed. It’s when you’re working hard, and being patient with people over extended periods of time that the dissatisfaction really starts to set in.
There is a reason a lot of work cultures involve people being obnoxiously loud regarding their accomplishments, or exaggerating what they’ve achieved. That’s not enough sometimes and you end up having to move elsewhere. It’s all so very unnecessary, and it hurts when you genuinely want to be passionate about your work.
Realistically, I should have been fired from every job I’ve had because I’m late so often. But when I’m there, I do more in a shift than any of my coworkers do in a week. Every competent manager I’ve ever had (which has been about half of them) bent every rule possible to keep me because I’m that good and they know it.
No I would not like to become a supervisor, please stop asking. I like my low stress job.
Probably my first career job, if I had to make a guess. I’m loaded with enough ADHD, and I think a pinch of autism to taste, to make it hard to not notice these things. It also means in general I can have a hard time being really in the moment but if it means that I can’t be as easily brainwashed well that’s ok by me.
It was probably also connected to the first time I had to pay proper bills. I’m fairly privileged so I had always assumed that people were paid decently because why wouldn’t they be? Woof, was that painful, but I try to make sure it’s the thieving execs problem and not mine.
Same. It’s nice to have enough wherewithal to shut it down when I run into assholes that don’t operate that way though. Nice people get nice me. Dickheads get the cutthroat version.
I switched jobs and it started working again. So I’m still of the opinion that it can work in the right job. Sometimes you still have to go ask for more money directly, but sometimes it’s just handed to you.
If it doesn’t work out, you have a lot of extra experience to talk about in your next job interview.
And all this doesn’t usually apply in dead end jobs of course. This is when you’re actually on a career path.
My first job, big boss dangled salary increase if I could get project delivered on time so I worked my butt off. I got the salary increase but I was still paid less than what some new starters with same experience were making.
To be fair, you do have to do all of that, but you have to ask for what you want at the end of it. Probably good to mention it along the way too but thats sort of up to local culture.
The moment I graduated from secondary it slapped my. All the old people who neglected to save or plan and refused to retire, and entry level being about half of what was needed to actually survive.
I never had that plan. I just went with being nice and hoping I’d figure out what I wanted to do and that things would work out. It didn’t go that great.
I do whats required of me at work, no more no less, and I’m always kind if I can help it. Bosses don’t care much about an employee who won’t go over and beyond, but at least i’m less stressed out..
I end up doing a lot of my admin at home (I’m salaried) bc people won’t leave me alone with their conversations that…aren’t important. But the hours are really good. One more year and I can move on and take a massive pay bump without working outside of campus hours.
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Be nice because you want to be a nice person.
Work hard because you enjoy the work.
Take on more than you have in the past to extend your capabilities. Never take on “more than you should”.
Never do any of these things for the recognition of others. Do these things because you want to do them.
One way I’ve seen this put is don’t be nice, be kind. Nice is performative and ’nice’ people can be two faced because they’ll be ’nice’ to both a bully and the bully’s victim.
Being kind is more about empathy. And if you have empathy, you won’t tolerate bullies. It’s far more genuine and not just a performance for whoever you’re currently in the company of.
Corollary: Quit if you don’t get paid to perform tasks you don’t want to do.
Or just have the fucking discussion. We sit there mad we have been given something beyond our ability but never want to actualize it and sort it out.
These kind of discussions should be practiced in school. Most people have no idea on how to start with it.
It also requires you to value yourself and your time. Some times therapy is the only way.
Yeah have a discussion after you have already been interviewing to see what’s out there, your discussion could lead to your manager or VP considering you a flight risk or unmotivated employee, putting a target on your back when they need to do layoffs. So always have a backup plan ready before you open your mouth.
I dont think that is necessary unless you work for a real prick. If that’s the case, start looking immediately. If youre afraid to confront your employer because your afraid of backlash you need to go. The communication will never be fruitful.
Edit: reminder - society deeming you a worker drone does not mean you should behave like one. Defend your humanity. Defend your right to exist. Defend your right to the pursuit of happieness.
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I think this is about jobs and work specifically, because being nice, working hard and taking a lot on is the best strategy in general life for sure. Out side of work for sure.
At work being nice is still important, but it’s also very important to be honest. Working smart is important and working for the long run. It’s important not to burn yourself at work, but working hard enough that you can be proud of your work and not be bored, because that can be a killer too.
Lastly, being automatically rewarded for anything is a disappointment in both general life and work. You have to always ask for what you want. I had a lot of difficulty with that for my whole life and being in my forties ive gotten only marginally better at this. But at least I get the fact that people aren’t mind readers and it’s not fair to expect them to notice everything you do and want.
I think it’s the “automatically rewarded” part that’s the key flaw in the OP.
I recently retired after working for 40 years at the same company. My general approach (to life, not just work) is similar to the post, but with some tweaks. I would phrase it more like:
- Be empathetic, and treat everyone with respect.
- Work hard and be willing to volunteer for the tasks that nobody wants, but don’t give so much of yourself away that you’ll resent it.
- Strive for fairness in your handling of situations, but never expect life to be fair because it isn’t.
I had a very satisfying career. I went as high up in a leadership chain as I wanted to go, and had really enjoyable relationships with folks at all levels. But that last bit is very important: life just isn’t fair. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for fairness though.
Until I realized you did in fact have to ask for it, loudly. And what I found is that they will agree, but drag their feet when following through usually. In those cases you wait until you have leverage and then hammer the point home by handing in your resignation, stating you might be convinced to change your mind.
It works pretty well.
Also: don’t do this if you are not prepared to follow through with your resignation. I had a friend try this and security walked him out the door 10 minutes later. See my above point about leverage on how to prevent such a situation, which he didn’t have.
Is it safe to stay at a company that only gave you what you wanted after you threatened to leave, what’s stopping them from keeping you around just long enough to hire your replacement because they now consider you a flight risk
I think this depends a lot on the type of company. Large companies won’t really care, but family owned businesses are a very different beast. Still, in my case (corporate) there was a gentlemans agreement that I would stay on for at least 3 years. Meanwhile all layers of management except the ceo, who started the week before he got my upgraded contract on his desk, have moved or changed and I doubt many even know what happened.
My company doesn’t hire enough people to have full backups for positions. In return for that, they pay well. But sometimes you need to slam your fist on the table in order to get paid well or you will stay close to your starting salary for ages.
This weirdly propaganda-ish phrase was pounded into our working-class heads and our parents’ heads. But it only helped me ruin relationships and almost my life.
Now I do my work and I go home. If I don’t like the job, I find another one. If I see my coworkers still there EOD I bark at them to go home (half-jokingly). If I make friends - it’s a happy accident. Staying late and working hard doesn’t earn respect 99% of the time. You’re playing yourself if you believe it. Life is short.
10, Depression ever since.
Have you considered trying to come up with a new plan?
Burn it all down?
I think people don’t realize how many doors are automatically open for them if they’re polite and hard working. Lots of interactions go way smoother if your end is always covered and the person you’re talking to wants to help you because you’re being nice.
Compare this to someone who is lazy and impolite. I think polite people would be genuinely surprised at how shit the day-to-day life of someone impolite is. Of course we’ll never hear it from the impolite because a defining characteristic is that they’re self-centered and ignorant.
The key is asking for it. Someone lazy and impolite who asks/demands that things go their way will get a lot of validation (externally at least)
But if you’re polite and hardworking and ask to get your way (which is not necessarily impolite, no matter what the perpetually anxious try to tell you), you actually have even more opportunities laid out for you.
To quote Parasite (2019):
Similarly, it also closes doors, especially in the US where the egregore of the “Executive leader” dominates - the kind of people who’ll forward an email with just “?!” as the body and expect their team to fix whatever problem it contains.
*laughs in a plethora of doors opened with everyone else barging through them instead
What? Yeah? Some doors open in some ways other doors open in others?
my comment was about how doors open in my life, and I never make it through because other people enter before I do and close the door leaving me standing around confused
At my job managers get swapped out with other locations pretty often. One year I had a HORRIBLE manager. She was knowledgeable but treated some people like garbage and others like saints who could do no wrong. After months of trying to get on her good side I had enough and just stopped putting in any effort outside the bare minimum. And I mean the BARE minimum. Not only did my mental health improve but as I watched some of my other coworkers struggle in the hamster wheel and I realized all the extra crap we were asked to do was meaningless and the entire hierarchy was the “good ol boys” club. I’ve saved soooo much time just telling people “I have no interest in being manager” so not only am I never asked to do extra work but my expectations are lower on all my projects. And guess what I’m salary so it doesn’t matter.
I feel a little bad cuz some of my coworkers are bitter about it. Like they don’t want the work but they don’t want to be passed up for promotion and I’m watching them laughing inside because I could tell them the next 5 people that are getting promoted without even knowing their work ethic. 😂
Promoted? People still get promoted at companies? My whole approach has been that companies only hire externally now, not promote from within. Companies believe this is better as it avoids interpersonal conflict that can happen when a coworker becomes your superior.
So if your company only ever promotes from within, and the only way to get a promotion or real raise is to switch companies…what exactly is the reason to go above and beyond? There isn’t one.
Probably grade school. Pretty sensitive to hypocrisy and noticed very early on that honesty got shat on or punished, and bullying, favoritism, and schmoozing got you ahead quicker. Being audhd made me very bad at the latter. Could not stand the requirement to kiss ass to get ahead, and just being a hard worker just got you more work.
“Hey that person is cheating!”
“We know, now hush.”
“But no one is doing anything about it!”
“SSSSHHHHHHHHHHH!”
Never realized that 😍
I never felt this way.
I was a fucking asshole until my late 20s. Fuck you, get the fuck out of
My my way, and give me what I want was my whole outlook on life..
Turns out that when your whole attitude to life is scorched earth you leave a lot of wreckage behind you.
I’ve grown a lot but I still believe in the importance of rocking the boat sometimes. And have also learned the importance of shutting the fuck and working with people.
During college.
Worked in IT and the biggest raise I could get from the CEO above my minimum wage pay was $1 per hour. Even with a friend we couldn’t afford to rent a place. Houses went from $300,000 to $1,000,000 over a few years while I was working there.
That’s when I knew living in the city and having a house was off the tables. 20 years later I now live in an RV off grid in the middle of the desert. Own the land, own the freedom. (Plus the land was cheaper than 1 year of rent in the city)
Damn, that’s nice! Good for you! Checked your other posts, do you have any chickens yet?
Not yet, I do plan to get some. We have an incubator and some solar coop doors we found deals on. We have some free fencing from Craigslist. Eventually we will get everything and build a coop and chicken run.
Nice, keep rocking!
Honestly it worked to an extent. It got me an ok job where I was paid decently until eventually I’d built up enough experience that I was underpaid.
Then I switched jobs a couple times to get my salary up, and now that I’m older and have kids, I focus more of work-life balance than on my career.
Working hard is still a good thing to do, especially when you’re young.
Can I ask what career field you went into?
Systems analysis, which I’ve done in the finance, energy, and healthcare industries.
I started by doing mundane, repetitive computer stuff. Then I taught myself Excel and VBA and started automating it, so that became my job. Basically finding ways to make existing processes faster and more consistent.
At some point I started learning more advanced programming languages, but in my last job switch I moved away from that and back to Excel and VBA. The pay is similar, and the career development is worse, but I work from home and spend more time with my kids and my cats.
When I didn’t have kids, I’d have prioritized working in-office and building my career. But nowadays I’m much happier this way.
I didn’t know VBA was still a thing lol.
It’s still an easy way to solve a lot of problems, especially around Excel.
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28?
I had been at a place for 4 years, I was the guy that knew everything about my position (there were only 3 of us). Then they hired a guy, and he worked with me for 3 weeks and was an untrainable idiot. Then he became my supervisor. They didn’t even tell me they were looking to create a supervisor position. I quit that day.
I’m still trying to learn it. Some of us have to learn it over and over. Wish me luck, gang.
Lol I’m here with my therapist trying to level with them. I don’t deserve the bad stuff that happened to me, but I can’t change what happened and can only look forward. I popped my fantasy cherry around 20, but still worked hard and got paid pennies
When i changed careers in my early 30’s. I was in retail for over a decade, hated everything about it, but was too worried about finding a new job. Buddy of mine offers me a desk job, i take it and it changed my life for the better.
I realized after a week that i’ve been busting my ASS for years with nothing to show for it. My coworkers have been here for 1-4 decades and none of them leave.
If you find the right job and the right management, everything gets so much easier.
I am meticulously polite and helpful. It’s who I am, and I won’t stop because the people who deserve to be treated like I treat people really are worth it.
People who treat you like shit don’t deserve shit.
Mid-twenties probably?
You do not need gratification for every single effort you put forth or every act of kindness you provide. If you expect this then you will be very, very disappointed. It’s when you’re working hard, and being patient with people over extended periods of time that the dissatisfaction really starts to set in.
There is a reason a lot of work cultures involve people being obnoxiously loud regarding their accomplishments, or exaggerating what they’ve achieved. That’s not enough sometimes and you end up having to move elsewhere. It’s all so very unnecessary, and it hurts when you genuinely want to be passionate about your work.
it’s been working for me.
Realistically, I should have been fired from every job I’ve had because I’m late so often. But when I’m there, I do more in a shift than any of my coworkers do in a week. Every competent manager I’ve ever had (which has been about half of them) bent every rule possible to keep me because I’m that good and they know it.
No I would not like to become a supervisor, please stop asking. I like my low stress job.
Probably my first career job, if I had to make a guess. I’m loaded with enough ADHD, and I think a pinch of autism to taste, to make it hard to not notice these things. It also means in general I can have a hard time being really in the moment but if it means that I can’t be as easily brainwashed well that’s ok by me.
It was probably also connected to the first time I had to pay proper bills. I’m fairly privileged so I had always assumed that people were paid decently because why wouldn’t they be? Woof, was that painful, but I try to make sure it’s the thieving execs problem and not mine.
I dunno, like, 8, 9? I still try and do most of that, but because it’s considerate, not because I think I’ll be spontaneously rewarded for it.
Same. It’s nice to have enough wherewithal to shut it down when I run into assholes that don’t operate that way though. Nice people get nice me. Dickheads get the cutthroat version.
I switched jobs and it started working again. So I’m still of the opinion that it can work in the right job. Sometimes you still have to go ask for more money directly, but sometimes it’s just handed to you.
If it doesn’t work out, you have a lot of extra experience to talk about in your next job interview.
And all this doesn’t usually apply in dead end jobs of course. This is when you’re actually on a career path.
How old were you when you realized that asking for a reward/recognition doesn’t exactly work out either?
My first job, big boss dangled salary increase if I could get project delivered on time so I worked my butt off. I got the salary increase but I was still paid less than what some new starters with same experience were making.
First boss dangled moving to Salary to be a “Full Systems Admin” instead of a Junior
Wages would’ve gone from $15/hr with 1.5x overtime to $30,000/year with unpaid overtime.. Full SA made 50k which was already bad.
They lost both Systems Admins on the same day.
I was 25ish. It was kinda crushing, but I also had cheat codes for life so its a bit easier.
What cheat codes? I could use an edge haha.
Be white (well, look white really. I am an immigrant tho.) Relatively well off parents, got lucky on some decisions I made when young…typical shit
I think you’re probably born with them. Some people lie about it though, that’s a thought?
Around 32, when I started working for Blizzard Entertainment.
About the same age when I realized it was too late to do anything about it either.
Make a company with all the people who think alike and profit together.
To be fair, you do have to do all of that, but you have to ask for what you want at the end of it. Probably good to mention it along the way too but thats sort of up to local culture.
10 years old. Parents and teachers are full of bullshit.
People never wanted my help in the first place …
Lol. That was never my plan, except for the first bit. My ‘plan’, such as it is, has always been to do at little work as possible.
The moment I graduated from secondary it slapped my. All the old people who neglected to save or plan and refused to retire, and entry level being about half of what was needed to actually survive.
Was this people’s original plan? Why?
I gave up on the working hard and trying to do too much 20 years ago. The first part I will do until I’m dead.
Yeah, but asking is super easy, tho.
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I never had that plan. I just went with being nice and hoping I’d figure out what I wanted to do and that things would work out. It didn’t go that great.
I do whats required of me at work, no more no less, and I’m always kind if I can help it. Bosses don’t care much about an employee who won’t go over and beyond, but at least i’m less stressed out..
Never, because it’s actually working out for me. Stop working for shitty corpos I guess
24 or so.
Highschool when I was stonewalled from fixing my academics.
I just found out I got lied to and I actually passed the honors placement test.
Too old. I won’t say, because I kept learning that bullshit lesson over and over and over…
Disillusioned early like 8 years old, so that was never me.
Hmm, Yeah, I guess I’m only now coming around it, not sure…I’m 32.
I mean, I realized it much earlier, but did I change my behaviour right away? Of course not.
It’s definitely a topic I’m embarrassed to speak about with family.
Like…9
Around 14yo
I end up doing a lot of my admin at home (I’m salaried) bc people won’t leave me alone with their conversations that…aren’t important. But the hours are really good. One more year and I can move on and take a massive pay bump without working outside of campus hours.
Closed mouths don’t get fed.